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The Unlearning Ableism Podcast

Making the uncomfortable, comfortable.

Hosted by Jamie Shields and Celia Chartres-Aris, this podcast challenges the roots of ableism in everyday life, systems, and culture, inviting you to learn, reflect, and take action.

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The Unlearning Ableism Podcast

Ableism is everywhere, in our schools, workplaces, public spaces, policies, and even in the words we use.
The Unlearning Ableism Podcast is a space where we explore the realities of Disabled life, challenge systemic discrimination, and imagine what a truly accessible, inclusive society could look like.
Hosted by Celia and Jamie people and grounded in lived experience, each episode invites guests to discuss their lived experiences. From advocates and educators to organisations and allies, to question, unlearn, and reimagine.

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Who this podcast is for:

We don’t believe people are inherently Disabled, we believe society disables them.

Through inaccessible systems, ableist assumptions, and outdated norms. Our work starts by reframing the narrative and ends with practical transformation. We bring both professional expertise and personal insight to every solution. That’s what makes our work impactful and trusted.

A Disabled person navigating an ableist world

A teacher, trainer or DEI practitioner seeking anti-ableist frameworks

A charity, NGO or public body committed to Disability inclusion

An ally, colleague, friend, caregiver and everyone in between. This podcast is for you

What you can expect:

Unfiltered conversations with Disabled activists, artists, and changemakers.
Stories that expose the everyday impact of ableism.
Thought-provoking discussions on policy, workplaces, media, education, and culture.
Tools and language to support anti-ableist practice
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This podcast won’t give you all the answers, but it will challenge the ones you’ve been given.

Season 1 Guests

Episode 1:

Disabled Talent

With Jane Hatton

Jane Hatton is a white woman with short blond hair, wearing a white top. She is serving CEO legend realness.
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Episode 2:

I’m Not Just Disabled

With Seema Flower

Seema is a South Asian woman with long dark hair, wearing a dark top and a large chunky necklace. She is serving Disability rights changemaker realness.
ID: Seema is a South Asian woman with long dark hair, wearing a dark top. She is serving Disability rights changemaker realness.

Episode 3:

Allyship Beyond Pride

With Jodie Greer

Jodie is a white woman with dark purple hair, wearing a dark top. She is serving ally beyond words realness.
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Episode 4:

Disability & DEI

With Bailey Smith

Bailey is a white non-binary person with dark hair tied up, wearing a black top. They are serving DEI manager and changemaker realness.
ID: Bailey is a white non-binary person with dark hair tied up, wearing a black top. They are serving DEI manager and changemaker realness.

Episode 5:

The “I” in DEI

With Montreece Payton-Hardy

Montreece is a Black woman with long dark hair, wearing a blue blouse. She is smiling as she serves fierce professional realness.
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Episode 6:

IDPWD Extravaganza

With Nathan Chung & Lu Castello

Nathan and Lu are serving pride realness. Nathan is Asian American with short dark hair. Lu is white, wearing a hat with long blond ha
ID: Nathan and Lu are serving pride realness. Nathan is Asian American with short dark hair. Lu is white, wearing a hat with long blond hair.

Season 2 Guests

Episode 1:

Defying Ableism

With Mhairi Harris

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Episode 2:

Swipe Left On Ableism

With Victoria Jenkins

Victoria is a white woman with long dark hair, wearing a blue blouse. She is serving fashion extraordinaire realness.
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Episode 3:

Rewriting Ableism

With Tiffany Yu

Tiffany Yu is an Asian American with long dark hair, wearing a black leather jacket. She is serving author realness with her book in hand.
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Episode 4:

Where Do I Fit In?

With Ben Van Hook

Ben is a Chinese-born man with short dark hair. He is wearing a checked shirt, serving researcher realness.
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Episode 5:

Mindful Access

With Dustin Giannelli

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Episode 6:

Breaking the Silence on Cancer

With Sharron Moffatt

Sharon is a white woman with long dark hair, wearing a blue top. Her hand rests under her chin as she poses the house down.
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Are you passionate about equity, inclusion, and challenging the status quo? The Unearning Ableism Podcast is seeking new sponsors to help support and amplify voices often excluded from mainstream conversations.

By sponsoring our podcast, you’ll be aligning your brand with a growing community committed to disability justice, anti-ableism, and systemic change. Our listeners are engaged, thoughtful, and eager to support organisations that share their values.

Why sponsor us?

High-impact content that centres lived experience and critical discussion.
Engaged audience across the UK and beyond.
Flexible sponsorship packages to suit your goals.
Tools and language to support anti-ableist practice.
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